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Reddit’s Politics Section Bans Salon, Mother Jones, Huffington Post for “Bad Journalism”

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I’ve been hearing about this from a few different places this week. Much as us Tumblrfolk are loathe to admit it, Reddit is another source where stories that aren’t getting much attention from the media can go mainstream. Part of the success of Mother Jones’ breaking story on Romney’s 47% comment last year was due to it going viral on Reddit. But today, that wouldn’t be possible, because Mother Jones is one of the sites r/politics has now banned.

This Slate article discusses why banning these sites is both wrong and hypocritical. Many of the whitelisted sites are barely news sources (The Daily Mail) and others are as biased as some of the banned ones. Specifically, they’re biased toward Libertarianism.

The Libertarian bent of the story is a point that doesn’t come up in this article. I’ve seen posts from former r/politics participants that explained how this all happened: Libertarian-minded folks who spent time on the forum didn’t like how most of the top posts were from “liberal” sources. Recently, new moderators have been appointed, and most of them are vocal Libertarians. Not necessarily a problem in and of itself. But they’re banning sites that generally get lots of upvotes, not because the stories aren’t true, but because they want to see more Libertarian news.

IN OTHER WORDS: The “free market” of upvoting popular stories said what the people wanted was liberal news. So the free-market loving Libertarians decided to make a new regulation that would prevent the majority of commenters from doing something that disagreed with their ideology. They didn’t agree with the outcome of the free market, and since they were in a privileged position of power, they changed things in a way that would benefit them at the detriment of others.

If that isn’t the problem with Libertarianism in a nutshell, I don’t know what is.

Bolding is mine.

Also I recommend this interview with Mother Jones editor Clara Jeffery on the banning.

I’m sure most of them also scream “Freedom of speech!” after someone asks them to stop slinging slurs and hate mongering…

Well, we know they scream and do thinly-veiled reboots when you try to get them to stop posting creepshots.

Also, an update on this story: r/politics has unbanned Mother Jones, but none of the other sites.

Most of these selections are abhorrent, but I don’t think that all of you are keeping track of HuffPo’s journalistic endeavors. Take a little time to get to know what content scraping is, y’all

My Spam folder on my Yahoo e-mail account

All of the spam in my spam folder has become a lot more obvious since Thanksgiving.

Then there are the notifications from the Huffington Post, even since I unsubscribed from the notifications oh-I-don’t-remember-how-many-months-ago.

…freelance labor journalist Mike Elk, 24, got press credentials to last week’s Mortgage Bankers Association conference through his affiliation with Huffington Post, then passed those credentials off to a union organizer. The unpaid blogger, who was promptly fired, contends “there is a tradition in labor journalism to be active participant journalists.”

Seema says:

Well, you wouldn’t want it getting around that people should be paid for their work, or anything.

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nedhepburn:

An Open Letter to Ariana Huffington.
Pay your fucking writers. People don’t write for “the exposure”, or “the ability to say ‘I wrote for Huffington Post!’”. Where is all the ad revenue going if it’s not going to the people THAT WRITE WHATS ON THE PAGE? Back to you? After server costs and whatever overhead there is, you should start paying your fucking writers.
It’s mindblowing - MINDBLOWING - that the superfuckingliberal Ariana Huffington thinks that all the writers will write ‘just for the exposure’. I don’t care that it looks good on a resume to say ‘Gee whiz you know that one lady who’s on Bill Maher every month or two who has great hair and sounds like she has a mouthful of marbles? I wrote for her’ but in not paying your own fucking writers you’re setting up others to follow in your footsteps. You already do. Half the writing jobs on Craigslist say the same thing - ‘writing for exposure’. It’s a daft fucking move on your part booking yourself as superfuckingliberal and progressive and then using some seriously antiquated Dark Overlord fuck-the-underlings let-them-eat-cake tactics. 
What’s worse is that people WILL follow in your footsteps. You’re like the Oprah for people that listen to NPR. Don’t be an idiot and start paying the people that work for you. 

Well said.
The problem is, sites like The Huffington Post only exist because people are willing to write for free.
That’s another reason why I blog on Tumblr: If anyone will make money off of my writing (sic), it will be me when I figure out how to stick Google Ad widgets in the borders of my pages.


If people stopped giving them free content, their business model built on the backs of unpaid labor would fall under it’s own weight.
The only way I could possibly ask someone to work for me for free is if I wasn’t taking a check myself, or if I was giving them equity in my venture. Huffington Post and sites like it are living off that free labor, making money off it and cutting themselves a check.

soupsoup:

nedhepburn:

An Open Letter to Ariana Huffington.

Pay your fucking writers. People don’t write for “the exposure”, or “the ability to say ‘I wrote for Huffington Post!’”. Where is all the ad revenue going if it’s not going to the people THAT WRITE WHATS ON THE PAGE? Back to you? After server costs and whatever overhead there is, you should start paying your fucking writers.

It’s mindblowing - MINDBLOWING - that the superfuckingliberal Ariana Huffington thinks that all the writers will write ‘just for the exposure’. I don’t care that it looks good on a resume to say ‘Gee whiz you know that one lady who’s on Bill Maher every month or two who has great hair and sounds like she has a mouthful of marbles? I wrote for her’ but in not paying your own fucking writers you’re setting up others to follow in your footsteps. You already do. Half the writing jobs on Craigslist say the same thing - ‘writing for exposure’. It’s a daft fucking move on your part booking yourself as superfuckingliberal and progressive and then using some seriously antiquated Dark Overlord fuck-the-underlings let-them-eat-cake tactics. 

What’s worse is that people WILL follow in your footsteps. You’re like the Oprah for people that listen to NPR. Don’t be an idiot and start paying the people that work for you. 

Well said.

The problem is, sites like The Huffington Post only exist because people are willing to write for free.

That’s another reason why I blog on Tumblr:
If anyone will make money off of my writing (sic), it will be me when I figure out how to stick Google Ad widgets in the borders of my pages.

If people stopped giving them free content, their business model built on the backs of unpaid labor would fall under it’s own weight.

The only way I could possibly ask someone to work for me for free is if I wasn’t taking a check myself, or if I was giving them equity in my venture. Huffington Post and sites like it are living off that free labor, making money off it and cutting themselves a check.